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Why Kylo Ren Keeps Ashes In Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Rene Bohn | PopWrapped Author

Rene Bohn

04/12/2016 2:19 pm
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Why Kylo Ren Keeps Ashes In Star Wars: The Force Awakens | kylo
Media Courtesy of HitFix

Star Wars: The Force Awakens was released on Tuesday, April 5 on DVD and Blu-Ray and many details and behind the scenes footage will now be in the hands of fan boys and girls throughout the world. Not that there weren't tons on speculation over every single element of the movie before people were able to pause and re-watch certain scenes over and over again, but now there is physical proof explaining some of some of the decisions that were made in the making of the very popular movie.

One of the elements of the movie that has been speculated on for the last few months concerns the moment when Kylo Ren, in the midst of interrogating Rey, takes off his mask and slams it into a pile of ashes. Some of the fan theories explaining the ashes were comical and downright sinister.

Before all was revealed by director JJ Abrams to Entertainment Weekly  this week, and in all actuality, debated as soon as the first official theatrical showing, fans of the Star Wars universe speculated on what the hell the ashes were. In this thread from Reddit, just after the film was released in December 2015, several ideas were bandied about:

DinoDude23 :

Because he is a slob and enjoys making s'mores in his chambers.

–]urnfnidiot :

I am thinking that it was the gravel from Mustafar. I just watched Episode III. After Obi-Wan leaves Anakin to die he "crawls" in the gravel. Seeing as Kylo is a Vader wannabe, my guess is that its the gravel.


I noticed the ashes and what looked like rocks. My first thought was hot rocks, like to torture people with.

It turns out that the more sinister the explanations that people came up with, the closer to the actual truth they were. From Abrams lips:

“Sometimes bits and pieces of one scene end up being something that you use in another scene that you didn’t expect,” Abrams explained in a recent interview. “That’s always kind of fun, when you realize that something you’ve shot actually has a use you didn’t expect.”

Apparently the moment that Kylo Ren slammed his helmet into the ashes were from an earlier scene shot for the movie. It ended up not working exactly right in that instance and Abrams moved the shot another place in the movie.

“The backstory is, that that table has the ashes of the enemies he’s killed. That moment was actually shot for, and meant to be used in, the scene where he was talking to the Vader mask.”

So there you have it. Kylo Ren basically has more psychological problems than you ever really believed. Which is amazing in itself since he's already pretty far gone down the path to the dark side. Now we know that, for some deep reason, feels the need to surround himself with the charred remains of people that have crossed him. It's a little crazy on top of crazy, but, hey, that's why we love the guy, right?!

Did you have your own theory about what the ashes were for? Did you it was just a large ash tray or were you more like me and not think about it at all? Let me know if the comments below!



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